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So I'm in the middle of editing a novel manuscript for a friend when a couple of questions come to mind:

1. Cows are females, bulls are males, and collectively they are known as cattle, but what do you call an individual animal without being gender specific? It seems like no other animal presents this odd quandary.

2. Why does "outspoken" mean "free or unreserved in speech, frank in stating one's opinions"? It sounds like it should mean the opposite, that other people "outspeak" you.
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SideshowJazz17 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
These are the types of questions I always want to know the answer to - why do words mean something other than they really should?
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Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
LOL English is a confusing language sometimes.
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RainbowStr8ghtJacket Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
very good points.....The question about the cattle, steers are bulls without testicals and a virgin cow is called a hefer........so............uuuumm.........hmmmmm.........so if they were born without a gender you could just call them a bovine.
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Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
LOL I just call them all cows. XP
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RainbowStr8ghtJacket Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
lol
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TheGreatAllie Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I see outspoken as coming naturally from the phrase "speaking out." It took me a minute to see what you were going for.
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:iconnevuela:
Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
Ah, it makes sense that way, but it still sounds like "You have been out-spoken! You lose!"
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Ormspryde Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
1. Hmm, good question; I'd say 'steer' myself, but most of the time I use 'cow' to refer to members of both sexes.

2. Because English is fucked up. Seriously, it's the kind of language that follows other languages down dark allies, beats the crap out of them, and then riffles through their pockets for loose vocabulary! XD
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:iconnevuela:
Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
LOL I remember reading that on Facebook once. XD
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Ormspryde Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I repeat it often, because it bears repeating! X3
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Bloodthorne999 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think there are a few other animals that are that way. Like with a deer. There's a Doe as a female and a Buck as a male yet collectively they're deer. As for the cow situations, I think they're all considered cows, male and female.

As for the second question, that's true XD
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Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
I thought you can say "deer" for a single individual as well, like "Look, there's a deer over there!"
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Bloodthorne999 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well deer is meant for a single or a whole herd. Kinda like sheep.
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:iconnevuela:
Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
As a little kid I always said "deers" and "sheeps." XD
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Bloodthorne999 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think every little kid did that XDD One I rarely hear though is a Murder of Crows XD
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Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
Probably. I also used to say "hambooger." :D I wonder who came up with "murder of crows." That is hilarious and fitting! There's other good ones too, like a piteousness of doves, a mischief of mice, a blessing of narwhals, a raft of otters, a parliament of owls, a peaflock of peacocks, a marmalade of ponies, a conspiracy or an unkindness of ravens, a shiver of sharks, and an audience of squid.
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Bloodthorne999 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Dammit, Notes aren't letting me do anything now -_-'
As for the whole Cecil killing Bob thing, I like it cuz when they interact later, they act like it's no big thing, showing how strong the relationship really is 83

Never heard of any of those XDD I just know a group of crows are called a murder XD
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Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
That's an interesting idea. ^__^ Never thought of it that way. But to think that Cecil was going to drown the entire town still bothers me.

Do you want me to send you my post some other way, like as a reply to this?
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CardiGirl28 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
very random questions there!!!!! maybe i can get the answer for number 1 for you i live on a farm and my dad is an expert on cows but i don't know the answer for number 2

4 A.M.!!!!!! your good at stayng up at night xxx
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Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
Thanks! I'm stuck staying up late because I go to sleep shortly after dawn and wake up around 2 in the afternoon. I'm not always like that, though. My sleep schedule slowly rotates around the clock and back. I think I have a circadian rhythm sleep disorder.
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CardiGirl28 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wow a sleep disorder i can't sleep before 2 am after 2 i can sleep i've never slept later so yeah xxx
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:iconbiggest-bob-fan-ever:
Yep, random questions :XD:! Can't help you there sorry :rofl:! 4AM :wow:?
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:iconnevuela:
Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
You're useless! Go stand in the corner! :D
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:iconbiggest-bob-fan-ever:
:salute: Yes, Mam! :iconcornerplz: :XD:
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Nevuela Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2012
Very good, you found the corner! XD
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